• DevSummit
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• FileSystems

FreeBSD Developer Summit File Systems Working Group

May 11th 2011 (Wednesday), 15:00-16:30.

Overview

As part of the May 2011 FreeBSD developer summit, this working group will focus on file systems. This is a by-invitation event open to developer summit attendees.

Topics

• Default to journaled soft updates in bsdinstall (mckusick)
  • announced that bsdinstall will default it on in 9.0 — shit hit the fan
  • fixes turning into one giant diff (5k lines)
  • speak now or forever hold your peace
  • Q: soft updates on root? A: should be usable now
  • Note: core dumps to SCSI disks broken — any volunteers?
• Raising UFS default block/fragment size to 32K/4K (mckusick)
  • last raised in 2001 (to 16k)
  • disks now use native 4k sectors; smaller frags are slow
  • Q: should we raise inode density (inodes/block)? A: will happen when we raise the block size
  • Q: perf improvement? A: yes, always
  • Q: might it make sense to only raise default for large filesystems? A: can always change defaults. Q: but shouldn't defaults on small disks be smaller — consider small roots? A: maybe. NOTE: consider making default depend on filesystem size.
  • Q: should we make inodes larger, e.g., 64bit inos? A: that's a UFS3 question, not now — also involves a system call interface change
  • Q: at Juniper we have huge filesystems but small files, so large movies aren't an issue. A: this is really about matching the software to the hardware.
  • Q: if you increase the size, microfiles become more attractive. A: perhaps
  • Q: is growfs still working? A: so far as I know, yes, but only offline.
  • Q: cannot grow GEOM providers online now, would be useful.
• Use of 4K sectors (ivoras/pjd)
  • Mostly covered by use of 4k frags
  • Drives lie about block size (claims 512b when reality is 4k)
    • but performance sucks so bad if you get it wrong
    • maybe bad performance is a way to figure out if the drive is lying?
  • Note: need to change more than newfs
  • Note: compare sector size to stripe size (some disks report both?)
    • get used by different things
    • apparently tricky to get this right
    • IOCTL for block size, one for filesystem, nothing for stripe size
    • Justin just wants a way to align fdisk partitions to a given offset (did I get that right?)
    • Justin: ZFS allows record size to change dynamically
      • needs to be reported to apps, IOCTL not enough
  • Q: what can we trust coming from the drive? A: maybe max size, that's all
  • 64-bit inode numbers (pjd)
    • we're the only one that doesn't have them yet (Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc.) current activity on how to get there
  • GEOM performance (pjd)
    • Geom doesn't handle huge io req/sec (based on ZERO GEOM class)
    • no hardware involved with ZERO
    • 512 sectorsize, 1 exabyte, 4 cores
    • kern.geom.collectstats=1

      • raidtest test -r -d /dev/gzero -n <NPRODC>

      • 1 proc: 75k
      • 4: 156k
      • 8: 190k
      • 16: 187k
    • kern.geom.collectstats=0
      • about 10% faster
    • debug.geomperf_direct_io=1

      • eliminates g_up/g_down kernel threads & passes the I/O requests directly in both directions

      • 187% faster
        • effect diminishes with number of processes → poor scaling
    • debug.geomperf_dev_eternal=1
      • adds the MAKEDEV_ETERNAL flag to make_dev_p() call in GEOM DEV class; avoids contentions on the global devmtx mutex
      • about 32% better than previous case
    • debug.geomperf_percpu_pbufs=1
      • uses per-CPU pbufs, avoids contentions on the global pbuf_mtx mutex
      • improves about 22% over previous case
      • near about 800k req/sec
    • increase MAX_POOL_SLEEP_SIZE from 128 to 1024
      • reduces contention on mtxpool
      • no difference at 95% confidence
    • change pa_index(pa) from PDRSHIFT to 17
      • reduces contention on vm_page lock
      • keeps everything on a single superpage
      • about 4.7%
    • totals:
      • 1: 525k
      • 4: 837k
      • 8: 814k
      • 16: 735k
      • around 436% improvement
    • Proposals:
      • flags to GEOM classes
        • "I can handle direct I/O" (separate for up and down)
    • Note: on some architectures can use direct map if pages are contiguous
      • avoids TLB shootdown, which causes implicit contention
• Update on ZFS (pjd)
  • v15 in 8 STABLE, v28 in CURRENT
  • Q: any work on unifying caches between UFS and ZFS? A: not high on the list because most people don't mix types on a single system
  • Q: Macklem hearing problems about heavy write loads, maybe a problem with logs? A: seems to be fundamental, need to use separate SSDs
• Default to GPT labels in bsdinstall (pjd)
  • as opposed to MBR
  • doesn't work for people who mix FreeBSD with Windows
• New RAID scheme for GEOM (mav)
  • ATA RAID stuff gone in 9.0
  • trying to unify RAID
  • Currently handles mirror, concat, RAID 10, ...
    • should be able to make RAID 5
    • unclear about RAID 3
  • issues with metadata support
• Update on NFS (macklem)
  • Defaults switched in HEAD/CURRENT
    • so far, so good
    • Peter Holm's testing going well
  • Should provide NFSv3 exactly as the old version
  • Also supports NFSv4.0 (RFC 3530)
    • main advantages: file locking, ACLs
    • Includes KRB support, but that came from v3
  • Future:
    • packrats: local disk aggressively caches data, should be better perf over long-haul links (probably not a big deal on LANs)
      • has to be enabled; you give it a cache on the local disk
    • "4.1 client stuff"
    • Isilon working on 4.1 server side stuff
  • Q: performance? A: about the same as v3
• Update on OpenAFS (kaduk/brashear)
  • Cache
    • chunk-based fetching and storing
    • persistent cache
      • memory- or disk-backed
        • disk-backed means VFS routines call into the KPI to access cache backing store files
          • recursive calls through vnode layer
          • locking issues (eek!)
      • memory-backed cache ok
  • today, we have a port

    • http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/152467

    • works with 8.* and 9-CURRENT
      • with a memory cache
      • vnode locking is hard
  • Q: based on IBM code from c. 2000? A: yes
  • Q: CODA? A: different system, not a lot of commonality, not much to learn, clients and servers can't interoperate
• Backing store in FreeBSD for other domains (Justin)
  • would like better asynchronous I/O support
  • Good for virtualization
  • Any other interest? No one else far enough along
• SSD
  • FTL — flash translation layer
  • Very wide addressing (e.g., 128 bits)
    • half to identify the file
    • half to index into the file
    • eliminates inode mapping
• Block de-duping in flash drives (mckusick)
  • please don't
• Filesystem Layout (mckusick)
  • Options:
    • one big root
      • 2 takers
    • / + /var + /usr/local
      • /usr/local includes home
      • 9 takers
    • / + /var + /usr + /usr/local
      • 4 takers
  • Other choices
    • good for ZFS
      • /
      • /usr/local
      • /usr/home
      • /usr/ports
      • /usr/ports/distfiles
      • /var/tmp
      • /var/log
      • /var/audit
      • /tmp
      • Nice properties:
        • can adjust compression
        • can adjust setuid, exec
        • jails can snapshot / and clone to create a new jail
  • Q: why separate /bin and /usr/bin? A: historic

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